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		<title>By: Sumit Som</title>
		<link>http://valencia.theoffside.com/team-news/the-future-of-valencia-cf.html#comment-12264</link>
		<dc:creator>Sumit Som</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valencia are an establishment in football, and it would be sad if they were forced to suffer because of this.  The Spanish government has helped out Madrid before - give Valencia a hand, huh?  I think they will be forced to sell a Villa or a Silva in the January transfer window, but given the level of debt, that would only be a temporary help.  Hopefully they find some more funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valencia are an establishment in football, and it would be sad if they were forced to suffer because of this.  The Spanish government has helped out Madrid before &#8211; give Valencia a hand, huh?  I think they will be forced to sell a Villa or a Silva in the January transfer window, but given the level of debt, that would only be a temporary help.  Hopefully they find some more funding.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy</title>
		<link>http://valencia.theoffside.com/team-news/the-future-of-valencia-cf.html#comment-11932</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I sent an email to Daryl there trying to get a Spain blog sorted up. It would be a weekly preview in the style of Wayne and Robs on the Premiership Blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I sent an email to Daryl there trying to get a Spain blog sorted up. It would be a weekly preview in the style of Wayne and Robs on the Premiership Blog.</p>
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		<title>By: siva</title>
		<link>http://valencia.theoffside.com/team-news/the-future-of-valencia-cf.html#comment-11931</link>
		<dc:creator>siva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plagued by debt and liquidity to meet immediate expenses, Valencia sees a silver lining from yesterday for hope. Vincent Soriano believed to have found the way to unblock the negotiations with Bancaja and obtain credit of 100 million euros of that time can not grant the savings bank. The solution lies in the hands of the future buyer of the plots Mestalla. 

One of the demands raised by the financial institution at the summit last Monday was to see the document of sale signed in London and exhibited by Vice President Miguel Zori at the last general meeting of Valencia. This breach until yesterday the scrupulous confidentiality clauses included in this commitment. But no longer is the case, according to the provinces confirmed sources close to the transaction, as the enigmatic signature has authorized Soriano to show the agreement to Bancaja and institutions Valencia. Even is ready to face those meetings through an official spokesman. 

It is not a concession free. Both parties need to rely on the good faith of his partner. If the Valencia requires in some way that the future buyer comes to light in a private circle, it also faces a difficult juncture. The sale of solar Mestalla has been complicated. The firm with which apalabró in London the transaction has not been thrown back, but, like Valencia has serious liquidity problems. Faced some investments in Asia that have not generated the expected results and this has led to its managers to ask the club blanquinegro a moratorium on the payment schedule. 

It may not move at least until after January, despite the fact that Dec. 31 was the deadline for fumata white. However, with his willingness to step up to Bancaja offer arguments to counter the guidelines of the Bank of Spain at Valencia and give the money it needs. In addition, this will be a vital support for the management of Vincent Soriano, who can demonstrate that the effervescent optimism with which he became president was justified. 


Bancaja remains of others 

Meanwhile, Bancaja remains alien to the plans of Valencia. Neither knows of dates for a new meeting or is aware that nothing has changed. Will be Monday or Tuesday when they know the identity of the buyer, key for the coveted award of credit just when dispelled the dark clouds Vincent Soriano was beginning to think that the lethal legacy that he left Juan Soler outweighs its good intentions. 

The discrepancies with Bancaja have been the final blow for Valencia, but before there was another no less important. As he had for signature IMG as a protagonist. Valencia, already in the era of Juan Soler, deck of rental in advance the VIP boxes of the new stadium during a period of between 10 and 15 years, which would generate enough revenue to pay for much of the work. It was not a revolutionary idea or outlandish, as a formula similar to that used with the new Wembley. But the global economic crisis has also truncated the initiative, throwing ground last week, the hopeful agreement reached with IMG, one of the companies that participated in the first contest of projects for the area of Avenida de las Cortes. 

When this firm undertook to rent the VIP boxes of Valencia had the significant financial backing from Goldman Sachs, one of the banks that have come out damaged in the United States. According to reveal the Wall Street Journal, Goldman Sachs has closed the fourth quarter with losses of 2,000 billion euros, five dollars per share. Broken the agreement with IMG, Miguel Zori desperately seeking another multinational. 

At this point, appeared on the horizon of the legal process of bankruptcy, equivalent to the old suspension of payments. Too many obstacles: the companies that build the new stadium are not paid since April, despite the fact that the Soriano calmed down with a new schedule of payments, and in February we must pay some 40 million to the template. 

To exit the passage of speculation, Javier Gomez, chief financial blanquinegro and one of the protagonists in the negotiations with Bancaja, read an official statement yesterday in which the Valencia looked a little tranquility. Gomez stressed that the club &quot;has a definite plan for economic viability,&quot; said it is not in bankruptcy, made a nod to financial institutions that have demonstrated their support &quot;and asked the union of Valencia.

I got this out of google translate from las provincias,I dont understand whether we have a solution or not!!!,but i think there is a meeting at 17h in valencia and we should know more by then....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plagued by debt and liquidity to meet immediate expenses, Valencia sees a silver lining from yesterday for hope. Vincent Soriano believed to have found the way to unblock the negotiations with Bancaja and obtain credit of 100 million euros of that time can not grant the savings bank. The solution lies in the hands of the future buyer of the plots Mestalla. </p>
<p>One of the demands raised by the financial institution at the summit last Monday was to see the document of sale signed in London and exhibited by Vice President Miguel Zori at the last general meeting of Valencia. This breach until yesterday the scrupulous confidentiality clauses included in this commitment. But no longer is the case, according to the provinces confirmed sources close to the transaction, as the enigmatic signature has authorized Soriano to show the agreement to Bancaja and institutions Valencia. Even is ready to face those meetings through an official spokesman. </p>
<p>It is not a concession free. Both parties need to rely on the good faith of his partner. If the Valencia requires in some way that the future buyer comes to light in a private circle, it also faces a difficult juncture. The sale of solar Mestalla has been complicated. The firm with which apalabró in London the transaction has not been thrown back, but, like Valencia has serious liquidity problems. Faced some investments in Asia that have not generated the expected results and this has led to its managers to ask the club blanquinegro a moratorium on the payment schedule. </p>
<p>It may not move at least until after January, despite the fact that Dec. 31 was the deadline for fumata white. However, with his willingness to step up to Bancaja offer arguments to counter the guidelines of the Bank of Spain at Valencia and give the money it needs. In addition, this will be a vital support for the management of Vincent Soriano, who can demonstrate that the effervescent optimism with which he became president was justified. </p>
<p>Bancaja remains of others </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Bancaja remains alien to the plans of Valencia. Neither knows of dates for a new meeting or is aware that nothing has changed. Will be Monday or Tuesday when they know the identity of the buyer, key for the coveted award of credit just when dispelled the dark clouds Vincent Soriano was beginning to think that the lethal legacy that he left Juan Soler outweighs its good intentions. </p>
<p>The discrepancies with Bancaja have been the final blow for Valencia, but before there was another no less important. As he had for signature IMG as a protagonist. Valencia, already in the era of Juan Soler, deck of rental in advance the VIP boxes of the new stadium during a period of between 10 and 15 years, which would generate enough revenue to pay for much of the work. It was not a revolutionary idea or outlandish, as a formula similar to that used with the new Wembley. But the global economic crisis has also truncated the initiative, throwing ground last week, the hopeful agreement reached with IMG, one of the companies that participated in the first contest of projects for the area of Avenida de las Cortes. </p>
<p>When this firm undertook to rent the VIP boxes of Valencia had the significant financial backing from Goldman Sachs, one of the banks that have come out damaged in the United States. According to reveal the Wall Street Journal, Goldman Sachs has closed the fourth quarter with losses of 2,000 billion euros, five dollars per share. Broken the agreement with IMG, Miguel Zori desperately seeking another multinational. </p>
<p>At this point, appeared on the horizon of the legal process of bankruptcy, equivalent to the old suspension of payments. Too many obstacles: the companies that build the new stadium are not paid since April, despite the fact that the Soriano calmed down with a new schedule of payments, and in February we must pay some 40 million to the template. </p>
<p>To exit the passage of speculation, Javier Gomez, chief financial blanquinegro and one of the protagonists in the negotiations with Bancaja, read an official statement yesterday in which the Valencia looked a little tranquility. Gomez stressed that the club &#8220;has a definite plan for economic viability,&#8221; said it is not in bankruptcy, made a nod to financial institutions that have demonstrated their support &#8220;and asked the union of Valencia.</p>
<p>I got this out of google translate from las provincias,I dont understand whether we have a solution or not!!!,but i think there is a meeting at 17h in valencia and we should know more by then&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnie Walker</title>
		<link>http://valencia.theoffside.com/team-news/the-future-of-valencia-cf.html#comment-11930</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Siva,
worst case scenario: Valencia applies for bankrupty, than every dept Valencia has needs to be paid to the creditors, meaning, every player will be sold in order to repay debts. And dont be fooled, Valencia has a lot of debts right now, hundreds of millions. So if we would sell one player in order to stay alive, in this case, i would approve it. Cause we would have no choice...

But we&#039;re not there yet, and i dont expect us to arrive at that point...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Siva,<br />
worst case scenario: Valencia applies for bankrupty, than every dept Valencia has needs to be paid to the creditors, meaning, every player will be sold in order to repay debts. And dont be fooled, Valencia has a lot of debts right now, hundreds of millions. So if we would sell one player in order to stay alive, in this case, i would approve it. Cause we would have no choice&#8230;</p>
<p>But we&#8217;re not there yet, and i dont expect us to arrive at that point&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: siva</title>
		<link>http://valencia.theoffside.com/team-news/the-future-of-valencia-cf.html#comment-11929</link>
		<dc:creator>siva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont even think about selling villa!!,silva,vicente ,jaoquin or anyone else who are important to the team..That is the obvious solution...But i cant see us getting anywhere with this.Only way to get out of this is united...The team is made to understand the significance of what they are playing for every minute of every match!!!.This is valencia and they play for the entire valencian community!!!
The team stands togetther,The fans who can afford go to the stadium and we will help out in every way possible!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont even think about selling villa!!,silva,vicente ,jaoquin or anyone else who are important to the team..That is the obvious solution&#8230;But i cant see us getting anywhere with this.Only way to get out of this is united&#8230;The team is made to understand the significance of what they are playing for every minute of every match!!!.This is valencia and they play for the entire valencian community!!!<br />
The team stands togetther,The fans who can afford go to the stadium and we will help out in every way possible!!</p>
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		<title>By: siva</title>
		<link>http://valencia.theoffside.com/team-news/the-future-of-valencia-cf.html#comment-11928</link>
		<dc:creator>siva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far i can understand,Bancaja is valencia&#039;s local bank,Thats why they want it to stand by the community in these desparate times,But the problme really is,Bancaja says it has already lent valencia 250M euros and makes it the single most risky loanee...Also it says there is a limit to the most loan you can give to a single organization which it has reached with giving 250 m to valencia,Unless there is a special directive from the whole bank union ,bancaja cant loan the extra 100m.Also think it as this way ,you are in buisness and u wouldn want to put all eggs in one basket which is not the impenetrable.Thats why bancaja is asking for documentation on future goals and plans to achieve economic stability before taking a huge risk on their part...So you cant say that they are wrong,but this is valencia....What would happen if something bad happens!!!The people and supporters cant imagine...SO sit and hope for the best!!!We will stand united and come out successfully!!!AMUNT VALENCIA!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far i can understand,Bancaja is valencia&#8217;s local bank,Thats why they want it to stand by the community in these desparate times,But the problme really is,Bancaja says it has already lent valencia 250M euros and makes it the single most risky loanee&#8230;Also it says there is a limit to the most loan you can give to a single organization which it has reached with giving 250 m to valencia,Unless there is a special directive from the whole bank union ,bancaja cant loan the extra 100m.Also think it as this way ,you are in buisness and u wouldn want to put all eggs in one basket which is not the impenetrable.Thats why bancaja is asking for documentation on future goals and plans to achieve economic stability before taking a huge risk on their part&#8230;So you cant say that they are wrong,but this is valencia&#8230;.What would happen if something bad happens!!!The people and supporters cant imagine&#8230;SO sit and hope for the best!!!We will stand united and come out successfully!!!AMUNT VALENCIA!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnie Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnnie Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ridha
well the numbers don&#039;t really lie, and therefor we have to remain careful for sure. I am optimistic don&#039;t get me wrong, but i would just like to have some more info, as can be read today in las Provincias, even our future buyers of Mestalla and Nuevo Mestalla are having financial problems... I would like to know who exactly is going to buy the old Mestalla, how they are going to pay, which exact payment dates are ahead of us, how we see ourselves completing these future payments and how our liquidity will be obtained again in the upcoming year. Lots of questions, just a few answers... 


Today the administration will meet at 17h, deciding what exactly will be done to solve this matter. I read in 3 months we have another 40 million euros to pay, i really wonder how Valencia sees itself in this situation. I remain optimistic, but we all need some more answers...


Btw, in case we would (have to) sell Villa, the numbers said in the media is 50 million. They also say Man City would pay 150 million for Casillas. I know we need money, but reading this i am sure we can get at least 70 million for Villa, than we can buy Keirrison as well hehe :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ridha<br />
well the numbers don&#8217;t really lie, and therefor we have to remain careful for sure. I am optimistic don&#8217;t get me wrong, but i would just like to have some more info, as can be read today in las Provincias, even our future buyers of Mestalla and Nuevo Mestalla are having financial problems&#8230; I would like to know who exactly is going to buy the old Mestalla, how they are going to pay, which exact payment dates are ahead of us, how we see ourselves completing these future payments and how our liquidity will be obtained again in the upcoming year. Lots of questions, just a few answers&#8230; </p>
<p>Today the administration will meet at 17h, deciding what exactly will be done to solve this matter. I read in 3 months we have another 40 million euros to pay, i really wonder how Valencia sees itself in this situation. I remain optimistic, but we all need some more answers&#8230;</p>
<p>Btw, in case we would (have to) sell Villa, the numbers said in the media is 50 million. They also say Man City would pay 150 million for Casillas. I know we need money, but reading this i am sure we can get at least 70 million for Villa, than we can buy Keirrison as well hehe <img src='http://valencia.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ridha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ridha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.goal.com/en/news/1719/valencia/2008/12/03/993894/valencia-play-down-financial-crisis


As usual, the media has blown this out of proportions.

I am not really worried and neither should you guys..</description>
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<p>As usual, the media has blown this out of proportions.</p>
<p>I am not really worried and neither should you guys..</p>
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		<title>By: Ramzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;take a look at some of the message boards around the ‘Net and you’ll see how gleeful Madrid and Barca fans are over the mere IDEA that we might sell Villa/Silva … pretty pathetic in my view, but then again, what do you expect?&quot;

Well, there is another side of the story my friend so you don&#039;t generalize, for SOME OTHER Barcelona fans, and now that their team is performing as good as you know, nothing is better for us than a strong Valencia, Sevilla and Villarreal, I missed any team?no not really, but why so? not only because RM are our rivals but also as a strategic approach:

Next summer will be important for Barcelona, all what they need are two players and a goal keeper, Silva may be on Barcelona short list (I was demanding him last summer ahead of other crazy popular options)but we are not as dispirit as Real Madrid to get him, and you can understand why if you followed Iniesta performance on the left wing and if you have an idea about the youth wingers we have in Barcelona athletic, so nothing better for us than a secure Valencia that have the muscles to keep Silva or else he may end up signing a contract For the other team, even though he mentioned he prefer Barcelona, but we don&#039;t pay crazy money as you know.

Regarding Villa he is a great striker, but we simply don&#039;t need him, we have the dribblers who can also finish, and we have Bojan who is under study, so the striker we need is a monster in the box to solve our nightmare against the teams that park their buses and trains in the box, thats not Vila, so between a Villa in Valencia and a villa in Madrid, you know what a Barcelona fan prefer.

Strong Valencia,Villarreal, and Sevilla may push RM out of CL places, which will unsettle the team and management and make them less attractive in the eyes of the players we -Barcelona - need and for sure they will try to get instead of us. just to clarify that side of the story:)

I hope things get better, because being a football fan before anything else it hurts to see an injured great player and a collapsing great team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;take a look at some of the message boards around the ‘Net and you’ll see how gleeful Madrid and Barca fans are over the mere IDEA that we might sell Villa/Silva … pretty pathetic in my view, but then again, what do you expect?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, there is another side of the story my friend so you don&#8217;t generalize, for SOME OTHER Barcelona fans, and now that their team is performing as good as you know, nothing is better for us than a strong Valencia, Sevilla and Villarreal, I missed any team?no not really, but why so? not only because RM are our rivals but also as a strategic approach:</p>
<p>Next summer will be important for Barcelona, all what they need are two players and a goal keeper, Silva may be on Barcelona short list (I was demanding him last summer ahead of other crazy popular options)but we are not as dispirit as Real Madrid to get him, and you can understand why if you followed Iniesta performance on the left wing and if you have an idea about the youth wingers we have in Barcelona athletic, so nothing better for us than a secure Valencia that have the muscles to keep Silva or else he may end up signing a contract For the other team, even though he mentioned he prefer Barcelona, but we don&#8217;t pay crazy money as you know.</p>
<p>Regarding Villa he is a great striker, but we simply don&#8217;t need him, we have the dribblers who can also finish, and we have Bojan who is under study, so the striker we need is a monster in the box to solve our nightmare against the teams that park their buses and trains in the box, thats not Vila, so between a Villa in Valencia and a villa in Madrid, you know what a Barcelona fan prefer.</p>
<p>Strong Valencia,Villarreal, and Sevilla may push RM out of CL places, which will unsettle the team and management and make them less attractive in the eyes of the players we -Barcelona &#8211; need and for sure they will try to get instead of us. just to clarify that side of the story:)</p>
<p>I hope things get better, because being a football fan before anything else it hurts to see an injured great player and a collapsing great team.</p>
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		<title>By: 56</title>
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		<dc:creator>56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this whole situation is realy wrong. There is one solution that could/might work. For that one, we need UEFA cup, La Liga and Copa Del Rey trophey. I know it could sound/is crazy, but if team is motivated enough, they could do amazing things. This time is not about honour, this time is about VALENCIA. Lets have faith and the team will do their best against Club Bruges and Barcelona. Amunt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this whole situation is realy wrong. There is one solution that could/might work. For that one, we need UEFA cup, La Liga and Copa Del Rey trophey. I know it could sound/is crazy, but if team is motivated enough, they could do amazing things. This time is not about honour, this time is about VALENCIA. Lets have faith and the team will do their best against Club Bruges and Barcelona. Amunt!</p>
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