

The Future of Valencia CF
By: Cesar | December 2nd, 2008
If you haven’t read today’s Spanish tabloids, here’s the main crux of the news: Valencia CF, as an entity, are in deep trouble.
If Valencia don’t come up with 50 million Euros by December 31st, the club may have to declare bankruptcy.
We all knew this day might come. Now here we are, a month away from what could be one of the darkest moments in club history.
As many of you know, Vicente Soriano was rebuffed by Valencian bank Bancaja a week ago when he asked for more money to pay debts, salary, etc.
Bancaja wants a more concrete plan as to how we’ll pay the money back.
According to reports, Valencia’s VP Miguel Zori met with Bancaja on Monday to negotiate an extension of credit of 100 million euros. Zori said, “The meeting went well with Bancaja.”
The meetings were held in a bid to hold off the freezing of the club’s accounts as details began to emerge that while their is calm on the surface, beneath it is extremely serious.
Bancaja has promised the club that they’ll examine the situation “with affection,” whatever that means …
Things are obviously bleak, but assurances will soon be sought over players wages, the salaries of nearly 300 club employees, payments to the business union (UTE) responsible for the construction of the New Mestalla and the payment to creditors.
Now, we all know how we got into this mess … Juan Soler, not making it into the Champions League, shoddy speculating of players i.e. bad transfers, etc …
And we all know the club had a chance to rectify the situation to some degree this summer when they could have sold star players such as David Villa, David Silva and Joaquin.
But what do we do now? What happens if Bancaja doesn’t bail the club out?
I’m not sure how much merit we should place on MARCA and AS’s reports of our demise. They’re mouth pieces for Real Madrid and they’d love nothing more than to see Valencia fail and Villa/Silva sold to them … take a look at some of the message boards around the ‘Net and you’ll see how gleeful Madrid and Barca fans are over the mere IDEA that we might sell Villa/Silva … pretty pathetic in my view, but then again, what do you expect?
Captain Carlos Marchena admitted today that the squad is concerned amid reports of an economic crisis at Valencia but says that solving the issue is more important than wages.
The players may not be paid in December if the situation isn’t rectified, according to MARCA.
The Valencia captain has revealed that the squad are waiting and hoping to hear good news, but will endeavour to focus only on playing while the board sorts out the economic problems.
“What is more serious is that the club has these problems,” he told reporters. “The squad is worried and we have asked for some news.
“We cannot do anything more than to try and make everything go well on the pitch as we have no control over the way the finances are dealt with.
“We hope that stability returns as anything else is not good for the club.”
What a dire situation …
Ok, so what does this mean for the future of our club?
We’re currently in 3rd place in La Liga, doing well in the UEFA Cup, are building an ultra-modern 73,000-capacity new stadium which is to be finished for the 2009-2010 season and have premonitions of better days ahead of us on the pitch … and now this.
Here’s what I don’t understand about this situation …
1 – Does this mean the club needs new investors, a la Roman Abramovich to save us?
2 – If we don’t make the payment by December 31st and the club goes into bankruptcy, what happens? Do we immediately disappear? Get relegated? What?!?
3 – IF all of this debt/bankruptcy talk is true, how can we afford to bid for Thiago Carleto and Keirrison?
As I write this post, the club’s sent out an official statement about the news in the Spanish tabloids.
Here’s the Spanish version … The English follows …
El Valencia Club de Fútbol quiere manifestar a todos sus accionistas y aficionados, ante las alarmantes noticias publicadas en algunos medios, los siguientes puntos: (Valencia CF wishes to express to all its shareholders and supporters, before the alarming news published today, the following points:)
1.- Que los gestores del club tienen perfectamente definido un plan de viabilidad económica que está siendo ejecutado desde los últimos cuatro meses. El presidente, los consejeros, ejecutivos y empleados del club siguen firmes en su tarea de conducir al Valencia hacia la estabilidad económica. (That the club’s managers have a clearly defined plan of economic viability which has been exercised the last four months. The chairman, the directors, executives and employees of the club remain steadfast in their task to lead Valencia to economic stability.)
2.- Que el Consejo de Administración, con su presidente a la cabeza, quiere transmitir tranquilidad y serenidad a todo el valencianismo desmintiendo rotundamente que el Valencia esté en quiebra, término que ha sido utilizado de forma irresponsable. (The Board of Directors, with its chairman at the helm, wants to convey serenity and tranquility to Valencia flatly denying that the club is in bankruptcy, a term that has been used irresponsibly.)
3.- El Valencia Club de Fútbol quiere manifestar su confianza en las entidades financieras que, hasta la fecha, han demostrado su apoyo a nuestro gran club y, por ende, a nuestros cientos de miles de aficionados. (Valencia CF wishes to express its confidence in financial institutions which, to date, have shown their support for our great club and, hence, our hundreds of thousands of fans.)
4.- El club exige responsabilidad y rigor a la hora de analizar la situación económica de nuestra entidad, reservándose el Valencia el derecho a ejercer las acciones judiciales oportunas. (The club requires responsibility and rigor to analyze the economic situation of our institution, reserving the right to exercise necessary legal action.)
5.- El Valencia Club de Fútbol pide la unión de todo el valencianismo para mantener la excelente marcha deportiva del primer equipo, fruto de la estabilidad y del gran trabajo de la plantilla y el cuerpo técnico.
(VCF is asking for the union of all Valencia fans to maintain the excellent progress of the first team (Valencia CF), the fruit of stability and hard work of the team and the coaching staff.)
That’s all we know for now … better days are ahead, right? Let’s cross our fingers and hope so.
P.S. Don’t forget there’s a match this weekend, bankruptcy or not.
Barcelona-Valencia this Saturday … join me at Nevada Smith’s … please?????
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omg im soo worried and scared! if i was a player i would say , i dnt want my salery untill the problem is fixed!
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The buying of Carleto and the bid for Kerrison can mean one of two things :
A) We do have some money and the situation isnt as bad as the press make it
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B) We bought Carleto and made the bid on Kerrison BEFORE we found out that Bancaja would reject our extension. I think it came as a shock to Soriano and co. and those bids were made before all of this.
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I think the only two players that wont suffer from this crisis are Curro Torres and Helguera, as they get enough tips from their bartending jobs to last a month.
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I, being an economist and following the news about our financial situation, am not worried about our club’s finances. We knew this day would come, we knew Valencia was in a bad position before we started building the stadium but that was exactly the reason why we started, to create a healthy club again! I am confident in the financial plan Valencia has offered and it will certainly not go bankrupt this easily. Plus, if it will be so that Bancaja let VCF down and let them go bankrupt, i think a lot of people would suddenly withdraw their credits on the following day, just to send out a message. Valencia CF is more than just a club, its a way of life for so many people, it can not be stopped by a temporary liquidity problem. Our future looks bright and healthy and before our time is up, even Bancaja will see this!
Amunt Valencia, Amunt Valencianistas!!! A por siempre!!
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You touched me Johnnie, AMUNT!
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I don’t know what worries me more… the game against Barça (because I like them too, along with Athletic Bilbao) or these financial troubles.
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@ Aintza : What Barca game?
I dont care if we lose 10-0 if they tell us that our financial troubles are alright
@ Johnnie: Ill need your professional view on this. Here is what I dont get…Why cant Valencia try to get the capital from another bank other than Bancaja?
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Several websites (nothing official just tabloids) that Bancaja has rejected extending their help to us again even after meeting with our vice-president!
If that is true we might be pushed to selling someone :/Posted from
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@Fayez – Which websites?
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@ Cesar :
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/433704/0/valencia/crisis/economica/(its in Spanish and I know my Spanish is rusty, I hope I understood what is said correctly
)Foroche are also discussing the issue as well. Im not quite sure if the rumor is talking about Bancaja refusing after meeting with our vice pres or before that, but it is dated after the meeting.
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Thats still the old news!! my friend,
So sit tight and hold on,We might be in for a tense week,hope we get through this trouble also….Posted from
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@ siva : let’s hope so. I mean I just dont understand why Soriano cant reveal who his buyer is. He’s been repeating that he found a buyer for the past two months now. I really like what Soriano did so far with Valencia, but if he lied about having a buyer then we are in serious trouble.
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@ Fayez
I don’t have an answer to that question mate, cause i don’t know the deal between Bancaja and Valencia. But what i can imagine is, that Valencia has a sponsor contract with Bancaja and probably Bancaja will have demanded that the club only does business with that bank. But there are no known details on their contract, so its just speculation, but i wouldnt be surprised if it would be something like this…Posted from
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Btw, Superdeporte writes today that Soriano was having dinner with some investor who 4 years ago was very much interested in buying a large number of shares from the club. The dude is called Rafael Blasco and SD thinks this could be a sign of Soriano (maybe) resigning and selling his shares…
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its official Huntelaar to Real madrid.
When did real become the ducth national team?
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I think this whole situation is realy wrong. There is one solution that could/might work. For that one, we need UEFA cup, La Liga and Copa Del Rey trophey. I know it could sound/is crazy, but if team is motivated enough, they could do amazing things. This time is not about honour, this time is about VALENCIA. Lets have faith and the team will do their best against Club Bruges and Barcelona. Amunt!
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“take a look at some of the message boards around the ‘Net and you’ll see how gleeful Madrid and Barca fans are over the mere IDEA that we might sell Villa/Silva … pretty pathetic in my view, but then again, what do you expect?”
Well, there is another side of the story my friend so you don’t generalize, for SOME OTHER Barcelona fans, and now that their team is performing as good as you know, nothing is better for us than a strong Valencia, Sevilla and Villarreal, I missed any team?no not really, but why so? not only because RM are our rivals but also as a strategic approach:
Next summer will be important for Barcelona, all what they need are two players and a goal keeper, Silva may be on Barcelona short list (I was demanding him last summer ahead of other crazy popular options)but we are not as dispirit as Real Madrid to get him, and you can understand why if you followed Iniesta performance on the left wing and if you have an idea about the youth wingers we have in Barcelona athletic, so nothing better for us than a secure Valencia that have the muscles to keep Silva or else he may end up signing a contract For the other team, even though he mentioned he prefer Barcelona, but we don’t pay crazy money as you know.
Regarding Villa he is a great striker, but we simply don’t need him, we have the dribblers who can also finish, and we have Bojan who is under study, so the striker we need is a monster in the box to solve our nightmare against the teams that park their buses and trains in the box, thats not Vila, so between a Villa in Valencia and a villa in Madrid, you know what a Barcelona fan prefer.
Strong Valencia,Villarreal, and Sevilla may push RM out of CL places, which will unsettle the team and management and make them less attractive in the eyes of the players we -Barcelona – need and for sure they will try to get instead of us. just to clarify that side of the story:)
I hope things get better, because being a football fan before anything else it hurts to see an injured great player and a collapsing great team.
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http://www.goal.com/en/news/1719/valencia/2008/12/03/993894/valencia-play-down-financial-crisis
As usual, the media has blown this out of proportions.
I am not really worried and neither should you guys..
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@ Ridha
well the numbers don’t really lie, and therefor we have to remain careful for sure. I am optimistic don’t get me wrong, but i would just like to have some more info, as can be read today in las Provincias, even our future buyers of Mestalla and Nuevo Mestalla are having financial problems… I would like to know who exactly is going to buy the old Mestalla, how they are going to pay, which exact payment dates are ahead of us, how we see ourselves completing these future payments and how our liquidity will be obtained again in the upcoming year. Lots of questions, just a few answers…Today the administration will meet at 17h, deciding what exactly will be done to solve this matter. I read in 3 months we have another 40 million euros to pay, i really wonder how Valencia sees itself in this situation. I remain optimistic, but we all need some more answers…
Btw, in case we would (have to) sell Villa, the numbers said in the media is 50 million. They also say Man City would pay 150 million for Casillas. I know we need money, but reading this i am sure we can get at least 70 million for Villa, than we can buy Keirrison as well hehe
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As far i can understand,Bancaja is valencia’s local bank,Thats why they want it to stand by the community in these desparate times,But the problme really is,Bancaja says it has already lent valencia 250M euros and makes it the single most risky loanee…Also it says there is a limit to the most loan you can give to a single organization which it has reached with giving 250 m to valencia,Unless there is a special directive from the whole bank union ,bancaja cant loan the extra 100m.Also think it as this way ,you are in buisness and u wouldn want to put all eggs in one basket which is not the impenetrable.Thats why bancaja is asking for documentation on future goals and plans to achieve economic stability before taking a huge risk on their part…So you cant say that they are wrong,but this is valencia….What would happen if something bad happens!!!The people and supporters cant imagine…SO sit and hope for the best!!!We will stand united and come out successfully!!!AMUNT VALENCIA!!!
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Dont even think about selling villa!!,silva,vicente ,jaoquin or anyone else who are important to the team..That is the obvious solution…But i cant see us getting anywhere with this.Only way to get out of this is united…The team is made to understand the significance of what they are playing for every minute of every match!!!.This is valencia and they play for the entire valencian community!!!
The team stands togetther,The fans who can afford go to the stadium and we will help out in every way possible!!Posted from
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@ Siva,
worst case scenario: Valencia applies for bankrupty, than every dept Valencia has needs to be paid to the creditors, meaning, every player will be sold in order to repay debts. And dont be fooled, Valencia has a lot of debts right now, hundreds of millions. So if we would sell one player in order to stay alive, in this case, i would approve it. Cause we would have no choice…But we’re not there yet, and i dont expect us to arrive at that point…
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Plagued by debt and liquidity to meet immediate expenses, Valencia sees a silver lining from yesterday for hope. Vincent Soriano believed to have found the way to unblock the negotiations with Bancaja and obtain credit of 100 million euros of that time can not grant the savings bank. The solution lies in the hands of the future buyer of the plots Mestalla.
One of the demands raised by the financial institution at the summit last Monday was to see the document of sale signed in London and exhibited by Vice President Miguel Zori at the last general meeting of Valencia. This breach until yesterday the scrupulous confidentiality clauses included in this commitment. But no longer is the case, according to the provinces confirmed sources close to the transaction, as the enigmatic signature has authorized Soriano to show the agreement to Bancaja and institutions Valencia. Even is ready to face those meetings through an official spokesman.
It is not a concession free. Both parties need to rely on the good faith of his partner. If the Valencia requires in some way that the future buyer comes to light in a private circle, it also faces a difficult juncture. The sale of solar Mestalla has been complicated. The firm with which apalabró in London the transaction has not been thrown back, but, like Valencia has serious liquidity problems. Faced some investments in Asia that have not generated the expected results and this has led to its managers to ask the club blanquinegro a moratorium on the payment schedule.
It may not move at least until after January, despite the fact that Dec. 31 was the deadline for fumata white. However, with his willingness to step up to Bancaja offer arguments to counter the guidelines of the Bank of Spain at Valencia and give the money it needs. In addition, this will be a vital support for the management of Vincent Soriano, who can demonstrate that the effervescent optimism with which he became president was justified.
Bancaja remains of others
Meanwhile, Bancaja remains alien to the plans of Valencia. Neither knows of dates for a new meeting or is aware that nothing has changed. Will be Monday or Tuesday when they know the identity of the buyer, key for the coveted award of credit just when dispelled the dark clouds Vincent Soriano was beginning to think that the lethal legacy that he left Juan Soler outweighs its good intentions.
The discrepancies with Bancaja have been the final blow for Valencia, but before there was another no less important. As he had for signature IMG as a protagonist. Valencia, already in the era of Juan Soler, deck of rental in advance the VIP boxes of the new stadium during a period of between 10 and 15 years, which would generate enough revenue to pay for much of the work. It was not a revolutionary idea or outlandish, as a formula similar to that used with the new Wembley. But the global economic crisis has also truncated the initiative, throwing ground last week, the hopeful agreement reached with IMG, one of the companies that participated in the first contest of projects for the area of Avenida de las Cortes.
When this firm undertook to rent the VIP boxes of Valencia had the significant financial backing from Goldman Sachs, one of the banks that have come out damaged in the United States. According to reveal the Wall Street Journal, Goldman Sachs has closed the fourth quarter with losses of 2,000 billion euros, five dollars per share. Broken the agreement with IMG, Miguel Zori desperately seeking another multinational.
At this point, appeared on the horizon of the legal process of bankruptcy, equivalent to the old suspension of payments. Too many obstacles: the companies that build the new stadium are not paid since April, despite the fact that the Soriano calmed down with a new schedule of payments, and in February we must pay some 40 million to the template.
To exit the passage of speculation, Javier Gomez, chief financial blanquinegro and one of the protagonists in the negotiations with Bancaja, read an official statement yesterday in which the Valencia looked a little tranquility. Gomez stressed that the club “has a definite plan for economic viability,” said it is not in bankruptcy, made a nod to financial institutions that have demonstrated their support “and asked the union of Valencia.
I got this out of google translate from las provincias,I dont understand whether we have a solution or not!!!,but i think there is a meeting at 17h in valencia and we should know more by then….
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Well I sent an email to Daryl there trying to get a Spain blog sorted up. It would be a weekly preview in the style of Wayne and Robs on the Premiership Blog.
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Valencia are an establishment in football, and it would be sad if they were forced to suffer because of this. The Spanish government has helped out Madrid before – give Valencia a hand, huh? I think they will be forced to sell a Villa or a Silva in the January transfer window, but given the level of debt, that would only be a temporary help. Hopefully they find some more funding.
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