Comments on: No Confidence

By: Franky

Franky — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:44:02 +0000

cherry
you think crisis b/c the last game, which valencia by the way, was of their offensive attacking power or lack their of. Well, i say to you that may be b/c our most lethal goal scoring player was out to suspension. Team just struggled b/c they are used to Villa’s style of getting behind the defense on a run and agression to win the ball almost every time its played to him. I cant really say for sure b/c I couldnt see the game here in the US, but i was keeping tabs on the stat tracker. They had more posession. One thing for sure, we let the wrong player go. Vicente should have left instead of Reguiero.

Crisis isnt 2 games, and 3 pts. and lets not forget 2 reds dont help i dont care who your playing.
Changes your entire playing style and mentality.

Crisis is 3 pts from 5 or 7 games in a row.
Thats crisis.
Back our team, whole heartedly, dont judge the team by 2 perfomances. Look at the whole body of work. Look what sanchez was able to do with the team he had last year. They went deep in every competition they played and had the most players of any one team called on National Team duty at any one time. Also, so many injuries, Vicente, suprise, suprise! Give up on this guy. I would rather have a player with the stats he put up in 20 games for a whole season of 50+ games and not be hurt all the time than Vicente, 20 games and out.

By: cherry

cherry — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:13:53 +0000

@Franky Vicente doesn’t fit our profile?? He made one of the best performance last year when he was around. six assistant and 4 goal in 20 games. Name one people did better than him.

Flores is great. He taught us that after one goal down, you should make some desperate moves and ended up in more crisis.

Our team is in deep crisis. The Vicente stuff just accelerate it. Our players are unmotivated, complaining, couldn’t organize effective attack. I think we did better last year when Albelda and Machena were playing DMs.

By: sx1

sx1 — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:53:55 +0000

@ Franky,tell me one game which we won after being a goal down.

I wouldn’t say there’s no confidence.This circus happens every season.

By: Javi De Roque

Javi De Roque — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:54:35 +0000

Ok i dont like Flores not because of the first 2 games. Its because of the first two seasons. Flores just makes bad judgement calls when he gets frustrated.

ALso he changed Valencia from a defensive force to an offensive team with a weak defense and a weak central midfield.

As soon as i saw that we were only playing 1 striker and that was villa against Villareal i knew we were in for it. The Villa up front alone is what caused vAlencia to go winless 4 games in a row near the end of last season. we need the duo strikers.

This season we get a bunch of new talent and yet we play the same old swan song. We need chanegs in the way we think in teh back

By: Franky

Franky — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:54:58 +0000

IDEA for your next blog:

TOP BIGGEST MISTAKES MADE BY VALENCIA IN THIS OFFSEASON.

1)Not signing Sneidjer.

2)Not signing Sneidjer. Hurt so bad it counts twice.

3)Not signing Van der Vaart.

4)Not getting Ayala to stay, or a good quality replacement, to anchor the back line. (Hello, Fernando Meiria from Stuggart)

5)Pay 20 mil Euro for Zigic but offer only 14 then 18 for Van der Vaart? Are you nuts?

6)Pay 20 mil Euro for Zigic but offer only 18-20 for Sneidjer? Are you stupid?

7)Fined player who speaks about the med. staff and not listening to the player. Hes earned his tenure there.

What would you add to this list?

By: Franky

Franky — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:18:50 +0000

Again.. I must say. Its time to let Vicente go. He doesnt fit into Valencia’s plans anymore.
Cesar, you want improvement in the team, let them play the games first, then you can judge if they have improved or not.
Look at what they did in the offseason. They brought in more players than Sevilla, and Barca combined. Second only to Real Madrid. Wouldnt you agree they need time to gel. While i must admit, I dont feel now is the best time to drop points, but would you not agree that the team is poised to compete in the top 3 or 4 in La Liga? Final 4 of the Champions League? A semi- or finalist in the Kings Cup? Those are some big ambitions. And we now have depth and coverage in the squad up front and in the midfield. Now, if the team can just stay healthy, and peak at the right times, and gel together, We will win 1 of those 3 trophies. Last year, after Vicente got hurt against Chelsea, the team looked so flat. The team lost thier focus and offensively we abismal. By what they currently have on thier roster, they are poised to make a run better than last years. And if someone goes down, they now have someone to step right in. Competition at the club, I love it. Sanchez is probly playing guys now who you might not want in their in situations b/c hes trying to see if a player can produce when they need it most. With a tight game on the line, can they cut it? Its better to do it now than to throw them in a bigger game with too much on the line to gamble. Hes just making his team more definitive. Do you really think with the fowards he has on the team, would start ANGULO, in a Champions League must win to advance game, over Zigic, Moro, Villa combo? NO. But against Almeria, or VillaReal? Why not? Not AS much pressure. Those teams are hungry to beatable by Valencia’s standards. I like my man Sanchez, their no denying it. I think if he can have a healthy team in the CL we could grab it. HE IS THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB. HE IS THE ONLY MAN FOR THE JOB. SOLER, with the exception of Fernandes deal and keeping Sanchez, he’s been yellow-carded in my book.

AMUNT.

By: cherry

cherry — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:04:04 +0000

Villa is critical, but he’s not the sole origin of our attack. We have been a team, not stars. We have Joaquin, Silva and Moro, Zigic and Vicente to help him and finish the job. Quique has a lot of talents. Sometimes he’s just at a loss what to do with them and other times too coward to do it.

What pisses me off the most is Soler’s action against Vicente. He always loves the club and gave everything to the club. He’s our star when fit. Yet he did this to our beloved player. Vicente’s haunted, but Soler did nothing to appease him. He agitates and upsets him.

Vicente’s last injury in August seems to be muscular injury. Can we do MRI for that? Yet from the pictures I’ve seen him in training, I can say he’s happy. I’m sorry for him. If it takes him going to another club to shine, I’d settle for that, ofc one outside Spain. I want the best of him and since he’s doing absolutely nothing in Valencia, let him to whatever he wants.

By: Franky

Franky — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:19:54 +0000

Cesar. Thanks for the pub. I really appreciate it. Lemme say, First you do a terriffic job. Second, its undeniable about both are passions for the team and to be outspoken. Regardless of our opinions, I love the fact I have an outlet to speak of our beloved valenica and of all places, here.
Now to my points.
1) Flores. Its been 2 games. Lost 1, won 1. Not horrible, but not teriffic. Give the man time. Please, its not the world cup, its a LONG CAMPAIGN. 38 games in la liga, 15+ games possibly, Kings Cup, International Duty (10 games roughly) 3 weeks in the winter off and Maybe 2 months in the summer for some. We got till JUNE to get it right!
Flores is the man, He knows what hes doing, He had 2 of his most talented players out with suspension, players who are new into the mold who need time to gel with each other and a medical staff, um well, cant speak for somethin i dont know about, We’ll call them suspect.

I know whats wrong Cesar,

a)you saw how bad we lost to Villareal
b)how good REAL looked and beat them by
c)how good Sneidjer played in 2 games in la liga
d)heard how insufficient and stagnant our attack was against Almeria
e)Watched how good Real looked and beat Villareal
f)Started thinkin about how i said in a prior post that the sale of Ayala was gonna come back to haunt them

AM I RIGHT?

Listen,
I know that what we have at Valencia may not be as good on paper as Real or Barca, and that they took a player we ALL WANTED SO BAD in Sneidjer, but we gotta get over that.
All the Big clubs in Europe with the exception of Real faltered their first week. Barca tied, Man Utd. tied & lost, it happens. We will get them later in the season, they’ll slip up.

Vicente, lets be honest, I would love to have him play every game and never come off, but really, he is now a lost cause. Things cant run through him anymore. Him walking off with an injury at Stamford Bridge last year was my last moment I remember of him and to be honest, its a game of what have you done for me lately. He is hurt b/c he doesnt condition himself to properly take care of his body. Hes definatly not overworked recently. He plays when he says he can. Is that not true? If doctors cant find nothing wrong, and he wants to play, b/c they have the confidence in his abilities, what more can you ask of a team? Fix him? How if their is no damage? Im sure they give x-rays and MRI’s.
And the other players, what did they have to rush them for?

Joaquin and Silva are now running the midfield. And when Fernandes is ready, and I cant wait for him. He’s super talented, it will be exciting and Vicente will then be an after thought.

For Edu, he blew out the other knee last year. He twisted it coming down. How does a team prevent that?
Not play him? Edu currently, if he might be injured, it could be just soreness, if he rehabbed well the difference will show in 6-mos to a year AFTER he has been playing at a high level again. We wont know about him till next year. I know this cause I had the same injury last nov. and thats what the doctor told me. Look at Michael Owen, same injury, not the same as before yet, would you agree?

What do you expect our Valencia to do with David Villa out? No one is as fit and as confident at the moment, nor has the amount of experience playing with this team as him.
You can always question a coach’s tactics and strategy, but how can you question him when he hasnt got all his talent at his disposal.
I could go on and on and in time i will. For now lemme just sum it all up.
Flores is a smart coach, and he wasnt the coach for the CL Final. You call that team ambitious in 2001? I call that a rarity. And Sanchez wasnt the coach. The team thats most favored before the tourney never wins it. Look at last years barca or chelsea. Liverpool made it. AC Milan wasnt the favorite before last year. Italy wasnt the favorite before WC 2006, with all the scandal going on in their league. So right now, though were not favored, thats what i like, we’ll be everyones surprise. Just for God’s SAKE COVER THAT DEFENSIVE LINE.

Great BLOG CESAR.
AMUNT!
R.I.P. ANTONIO PUERTA. FOREVER IN THE THOUGHTS OF EVERY PLAYER WHO HAS BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE TO LIVE OUT THEIR DREAM OF PLAYING. MAY THIS NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
GOD BLESS AND YOUR FAMILY, AND MAY ETERNAL LITE SHINE UPON HIM. En PAZ DESCANSA. AMEN.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:45:12 +0000

Wholeheartedly agree with Javier… a club like Valencia deserves a coach in the class of Lippi, Del Bosque.. I’d take Pelligrini over QQ in a second too.. I wanted to give him a chance too but he’s just simply tactically inept..

By: Javier De Roque

Javier De Roque — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:17:16 +0000

it was the club president that screwed us out of the best coach we ever had “Benitez” We should have catered to the man who brought us 2 league titles in 3 seasons with teh club. Instead we tell him off and make it so he wants to leave. Just plain stupid. Ever since we have had sub par wanna be coaches that dont know how to manage a super club. This sint Getafe people this is Valencia one of the top 3. And yet they treat it like the team that was relegated so long ago.

Its time we started treating this like a super club. bring in coaches that know how to train them. like Bosque.