

Memorial Day Blues
By: Cesar | May 25th, 2009
Today’s Memorial Day in the United States, a day which commemorates U.S. men and women who died while in military service.
It’s the unofficial kick-off of the summer season. Families get together, cook hot dogs and burgers on the barbecue grill and have a happy time together.
But I can’t shake the dejected feeling that fell over me after Valencia’s 3-1 defeat at the hands of state rivals Villarreal.
We all know the connotations of this loss: No Champions League, loss of cash revenue and the possible transfer of stars David Villa and David Silva.
I’m in no mood to go back over this match. Kyle did a great job of reviewing the match at his excellent Locos 4 Los Che.
I’m going to shoot straight from my gut here and tell you what I think about the current incantation of Our Beloved.
As much as we love the two Davids, what have we won with them?
The time’s right, folks.
We need to cash in on these valuable talents while the time is right.
Valencia CF needs a total re-evaluation of not only their administrative infrastructure (What role does Vicente Soriano play? What power does sporting director Fernando Gomez have? Who’s taking over the club?) but their sporting talent.
Of course, we’ve been wrestling with these issues since Juan Soler’s ouster last season.
Now, we’re at a cross roads. No Champions League next season. No injection of much needed cash. So what do we do?
Look, this team’s horribly inconsistent. They have a terrible defense, a weak midfield that struggles way too often and is over powered easily and a thin strike force.
Bottom line: We’re simply not good enough to be in next season’s Champions League. The results have seen that out. Now we have to come to the realization that things need to change – and fast – with our club.
Honestly, what’s better? Fixing the pressing issues of this squad or getting knocked out in the first round of the Champions League? I’m of the opinion that ’short-term pain/long-term gain’ is the way we should advance.
So what should we do?
For starters, keep Unai Emery.
There’s simply nothing more this guy could have done. Sure, we can question his tactics. We can ask why he didn’t play so-and-so one game and so-and-so another.
But at the bottom of it, he took essentially the same squad that was almost relegated last season and brought them within a whisker of getting into Spain’s Top 4. That’s not a bad record.
Remember, the squad wasn’t paid for nearly two months and Emery STILL managed to have a shot at the Champions League with two weeks left on the schedule.
Either La Liga is that bad or he did something right at some point in the season.
I say give the guy another year, at least. If things don’t pan out next season, do what you will. My question is, who takes over? And please don’t make me laugh with suggestions of Guus Hiddink returning or any other big name coach. As has so often been said here, ‘We have no money!’
After that? I think we cash in on David Villa and David Silva and start over.
We have precedence in this department.
Claudio Lopez left the club after the 2000 season and everyone thought the club was finished.
Gaizka Mendieta did the same in 2001. What did we do but win two league titles and the UEFA Cup?
What stars were on that team? Mista? Rufete? Vicente? Canizares?
That was a team built on quality guys. Players who were hungry, talented and eager to show their skills on a grand stage.
And remember, of the three seasons Rafa Benitez (then a 2nd division coach hired by Valencia after many big-name trainers avoided us) coached at Valencia, we were only in the Champions League once.
Another thing: Villa’s going to turn 28 in December. Not old, but the guy’s in the peak of his powers. How about we sell him and buy two or three guys that can step in immediately and help our porous defense or our so-so midfield?
How about we cash in on David Silva’s wonderful talent and get another striking prodigy and some relegated squad’s free transfers?
I know this is controversial thinking. Do you really think I want to see either of these guys leave?
But what have we won with them? What other assets do we have that can bring us a big return? Curro Torres? I doubt it.
I’d hate to see Villa in a Madrid kit or Silva wearing Barca’s strip. But what can we do?
Of course, we should get rid of the extra weight. Guys like Hugo Viana, Edu and Angulo have no place here. VCF legends like Albelda and Baraja need to finish their careers elsewhere. And guys like Joaquin need to resurrect their careers some where else.
Players like Mata need to play. Guys like Pablo Hernandez and Manuel Fernandes need to be the new face of Valencia CF. Because we need a boost of energy in that club house to ever escape these doldrums.
One era ends but we can rise again. If we’re smart with our decisions from here on out.
That’s where this next nugget of news could come in.
According to news reports and comments posted on the previous blog post (thanks Johnnie Walker):
Soriano is going to announce the name of the buyer of the old Mestalla-parcels plus the tower which will come next to the Nou Mestalla, plus this buyer will also buy the shares of Soler, Soriano and Silla so he will accuire a 51% share capital, leaving Soriano to continue as president of a Valencia totally renewed. This all will be told tomorrow to the council of Valencia so they can cancel the amplication of capital cause they dont need it anymore, since the buyer will pay 350 million euros for the parcels and the new tower.
Would that be good news? I’d say so …
So it’s wait and see.
Maybe we win this weekend and play UEFA Europa League action with Villa, Silva and the usual gang of cronies.
Or maybe we get the above mentioned buyer, keep the two stars and build a better squad around them.
Or maybe we sell the two stars, blow up the team and start over with Mata, Pablo and Manuel Fernandes the base of the team.
What do you guys think? I’m just one depressed Valencia CF fan shooting from the hip.
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We need to cash in on Villa Love the guy but we need something else. I feel bad he can not play in the champions league because he is of that caliber and is on the same level as Ronaldo or Messi if given that kind of stage. Shame it can’t or won’t be with us.
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I was happy that Barcelona won because they proved that the better team wins it at the end. I know that I cannot talk a lot about this in this blog, but to put it simple, Puyol showed a great resilience agaisnt Ronaldo and Evra. Barca’s defense is awful? Well, they denied Man u. On that side, I must say that it was more luck than skill. Then again, the midfield destroy Manchester. Manchester United came too confident. They thought that they would calmly overcome their opponent. Evra’s overconfidence really pissed me off. He was greatly eclipsed by Puyol.
Now, I read on Kyle’s website (GREAT WEBSITE by the way! It covers a lot of news and everything is translated in English)that a mysterious man could launch a mega takeover. If that was to happen, then it would mean that this man is super rich. Consequently, Valencia might on even term with the two big of Spain when it come financial sources. But, every talks are mere speculations. In the other hand, a coalition is forming between the major shareholder who happen to be : Juan Soler and Vicente Soriano. Since Soriano has a potential buyer, the club’s board has allowed him to control momentarily so that he can proceed with the selling of the old Mestalla. Well, I don’t understand why they need to join forces. but, If Valencia manage to sell their old stadium and get a potentially richer owner, it would mean: Sell Villa, buy Negrado and start a new club from where it is.
*Maybe some of you might consider him as useless, but, at the very least, he deserved some credits for the three years he passed with the team: Fernando Morientes. His contract is ending and won,t renew it. So, hasta la proximo muchacho!*
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Thanks for the memories MR. Villa but it’s time to go; otherwise we could be force to sell him in the future like Arsenal did with Henry; I say we must keep Silva; he’s just too fucking good and young to let him go; he’s been with Valencia since he was 13!!!! He lives for the club.
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Jason, our tactics were terrible. If someone asked “Whats the worst way to play against Barcelona?” my answer would be how we played tonight. We left two central midfielders, one a 21 year old with lots to prove, against Xavi, Iniesta and Messi in central areas. 2 on 3? No surprise that the very first time we allowed their midfield to get the ball past the half way line, they scored. We hardly let the front 6 of Barcelona have a touch of the ball in the first 10 minutes – clearly that was our tactic. But honestly, no team could restrict Barcelona’s midfield and forward line that way for 90 minutes. It was mental of us to try. We know how to beat Barcelona, we did it last year. Chelsea copied us and came oh so close this year. For some reason we went a bit mad and tried to beat them by outplaying them in midfield. Thats impossible and we, quite predictably, lost that battle.
Thats what we should aim to put right next season. With the right tactics we could have beat them like we did last time and like Chelsea should have. We left ourselves open instead, which is frankly suicidal. Thats why we deserved to lose.
And yes I agree Adimente
For some bizarre reason we didnt give Barcelona’s midfield the respect of what they deserve and we were well and truly punished for it. Similar to the Milan match a few years ago. Congratulations first Spanish side to do the Double let alone the Treble I believe? And congratulations to Gerard Pique who I also believe is the first player to win the competition two seasons in a row with seperate clubs. He’s really come of age this season.Posted from
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Man U should’ve watched the Val-Barca tape, maybe could’ve allowed them to not to get completely merked today. The only reason Chelsea and Manchester beat Barca was because of the CL system. English teams put 11 in front of the goal, get the draw, then get a lucky goal at home to advance – was the way Man U did it last year and how Chelsea almost did it this year. In a one match final, the better team usually wins. Man U might’ve been better last year, but they aren’t this year. Congrats, Barca. I hate you, but damn’t do I respect you.
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So Lillo, you are saying the only way to get a result against a depleted Barca is by putting 10 men behind the ball for most of the match?
We came out and played against them and got a result. Atletico came out and played and got a win. Shows that it can be done.
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Nithin, Barcelona had an off day against you. I hate to break it to you but they were thinking about other things. Had you have been playing in the champions league final it wouldnt have happened, because thats what they were thinking about. Take for example the players who were terrible that day – Leo Messi, as bad as I’ve ever seen him against you. You think he’d do that in the champions league final? Of course not.
And lol@lucky goal. You mean like Iniesta’s goal against Chelsea in the 93rd minute, first shot on target? Those kind of lucky shots?
When Barcelona are ‘on their game’, the way to beat them is to defend well and then pick your moments to hit them in their weak spots. Because they do have them, they are just well protected by the midfield. Had we have done the first part and defended properly we’d have been in the match from start to finish. Sadly, like against Liverpool, our defending let us down. Ferdinand and Vidic both had knocks, I hope thats all it was. Thats probably all it was. Because all of our success this season was built on our ’solid’ (apart from 2 or 3 matches) defence – and hindered by our attack which dissappointed this season.
We set out with naive tactics and rightly, we were punished for it. It was ridiculous to think we could deprive Barcelona’s midfield a supply of the ball the whole game by pushing everyone so far up the pitch. And of course we missed Fletcher, who is our only midfielder who breaks up the play in the middle with lots of challenges, because Hargreaves is always injured (and rubbish). But we cant complain about missing Fletcher as Barcelona had more players missing. In fact, I honestly believe thats why we had the nerve to turn up and try and play the way we did. Because of a few of the players missing. If Barcelona were at full strength, surely we’d have played the tactics we know work against them in this competition.
The rightful team won certainly. Gives us something to prove next season. I was actually fairly happy with our squad, but the way in which we lost the match might actually mean we do some surgery to it and make a big improvement in certain areas. I just hope that, if thats the case, we do it more wisely than signing a £31 million striker who doesnt make it into the lineup of the champions league final, then comes on to miss a free header to get us back in the game. Because we’re in debt too
Lets not squander silly money.Posted from
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Getafe star Granero in, Silva out?
http://loco4losche.com/blogweb/index.php
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Just like I told you,don’t push our players out of club,they are continuing to declare that they want to stay with us. http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2009/05/28/1290628/david-villa-happy-to-play-in-europa-league-with-valencia
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Hi for those who dont know Pitarch, in my opinion he was a disaster for Valencia because he insisted on complete control over buying and selling of players. Benitez could not work under these conditions and so he walked and we lost the best trainer we have had, I am sure we would have made a Champions medal if he stayed with us, instead Benitez went on to win the Champions with Liverpool. That is a typical example of Valencia thinking, which we still suffer from. Almendras
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its not Valencia thinking. Its the management thinking.
I once worked at a company that was very succesfull.. they promoted the wrong group of asskissers to run the place and within 6 months were nearly bankrupt. Yes a bad team of managers can run anything into the ground. Valencia have had a horrible management team for a very long time. Because the owners are a bunch of billionaires that have little or no interest int he actual game. have you ever seen them at a game. theya re nearly pulling a Berlusconi at the champions league final. No interest what so ever.
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As for Barca.. they played typical british football on the night. Long ball passes to outrun defence. thats what teams play when they are outclassed.
Man U are not as good as Barca. now they know it.
The only way to beat a team as good as barca is to place your whole team in teh back and defend. thats it. You cannot beat them at football. You can only get lucky with antifooball.
No team i have seen in my lifetime has been as good as this barca team.
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I think this should become our new team, after we sold 60% of the squad. 22 Players, young, most of them know eachother, most of them have played with some other players in former teams, i think this could work:
Goalies:
Cesar, Asenjo / UstariDefence:
Sergio Sanchez, Albiol, Alexis, Mathieu
Ximo Navarro, Maduro, Dealbert, CarletoMidfield:
Pablo, Fernandes, Granero, Apoño, Mata
Sisi, Banega, Albelda, AaronAATTAAACKK!!!:
Negredo, Soldado, MikuPosted from
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Javier, you’re absolutely right. This season they were better than us. Its our own fault though – we bested them last year, but then made some poor changes to our side. ie. Berbatov.
Even so we had a few moments in the game that could have gone our way and we could have won. For one, Pique’s block from the rebound from Ronaldo’s shot at the start that Park was about to put in. Then Pique took Ronaldo out when he was running through on goal. Would have been harsh, but he was actually the last man and by the letter of the law, if it was our day, he may have been sent off there. Goals change matches though and it was Barcelona who took the lead. We didnt come back from it. On another day, had Park got there sooner and hooked the ball in it could easily have been our night.Posted from
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@Lillo, yes, Iniesta’s was a fortunate goal, but I’m more so describing a 60 ft prayer from 85 yr old Paul Scholes at Old Trafford last year and Essien’s deflection rip this year. The better team won – no one can possibly argue that Chelsea or Man U are better than Barca. And Barca were thinking about Valencia, as Madrid were nipping at their heels, so don’t give me that ish. @Johnnie, nice lineup, my friend, I like the Soldado pick up front. As an Osasuna fan, I’ve always had love for Roberto, and I’ve been calling for his arrival for a while. I’d still like to see Silva in there though.
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Nah, sorry thats rubbish. Messi is a man for the occasion – if Barcelona gave a damn about your match he wouldnt have been among their worst players on the day. When you’re fighting on all fronts, you cant play every game at the same intensity and Barcelona had their foot off the pedal against you. You still had to match a very good side, but they never went into their highest gear because it wasnt the final of a tournament. Oh and Essien’s shot wasnt deflected. Essien’s and Scholes’ shots were even purer than Iniesta’s winner. 93rd minute of injury time, with the first shot… Yeah, thats the definition of a lucky longshot.
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Lillo, Barca considered the Liga as important, if not more, as the CL. And their match against us was very important in keeping RM at bay. And I don’t see why they would’ve been concentrating on CL while playing against us. They didn’t have a match that week, if i remember right. And what, a team like Barca can only focus on one tournament during a season? Really?
As for Messi, he wasn’t at his best yesterday either. And for that matter, he did get one of the lowest ratings among the players over at the Barca blog. And they are usually good with the ratings.
And what is with the English mentality of not giving credit to those who played well, instead blaming it on the opposition being bad? We pressed Barca in the midfield well during out match, created chances and took them. We had Mata, Silva and Pablo on song. Maybe ManU and Chelsea cannot do it, but don’t tell me our result was solely because Barca didn’t play well.
And finally, 93rd minute (3rd minute of injury time, actually), your team going out in CL final, a violent opposition with 10 men in their penalty box and a goal with your first shot? Thats the definition of character. And justice. While I admit Essien’s shot did involve some skill, it also involved far more luck that Iniesta’s.
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I meant that a deflected ball fall at Essien’s foot, then he hit it in. There was an actual pass to Iniesta and he put it in the net from just outside the box, rather than from almost midfield. Scholes would never hit that shot again, whereas Iniesta scores from there 9 times out of ten, hence a lucky shot. But let’s not debate this again. Barca was the best team, which is why they are champions. Would be nice to support a team with unlimited resources.
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Alvaro Negredo Prefers Valencia Over Real Madrid
Valencia may have the upper hand in the race to sign Alvaro Negredo after he stated he would rather go there than be a substitute at Real Madrid…
Alvaro Negredo has stated that he would rather join Valencia if Real Madrid only want to buy him back to sell him on or leave him on the bench next season.
The 23-year-old striker looks set to leave Almeria in the summer and Los Merengues have a buy-back clause in his contract after he left them in 2007 to move to the Estadio del Mediterráneo.
Madrid may well adopt a policy of giving their young players more of a chance, but Negredo is still wary of following in Roberto Soldado’s footsteps and going back only to be left out of the team.
Instead he is flattered by Valencia’s interest and admits that a move to play regularly at Mestalla could be more tempting, especially if David Villa leaves the club.
“If I go back to Madrid it will be to play,” AS quote him as saying.
“At Valencia, if Villa were to leave, then I could have more chance of playing regularly.”
Negredo rose throught the ranks at Rayo Vallecano before he joined Real Madrid in 2005 and spent just two seasons in the B team before moving on again to Almeria.
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Of course this is contingent on Negredo not being able to play for Real Mierda and Villa being sold. I could see Perez telling him, much like Calderon said to Soldado, that he will be “fighting for a spot”, which means he’ll sit on the bench. There’s no way that Negredo can be guaranteed a starting role like he wants. RM should just give us Negredo, Granero, and 20 mill for Silva. Everybody happy?
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That will never happen, but i’d sign that deal instantly… Dont underrate Negredo and Granero mate, or overrate Silva in that case hehe…
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What would you take JW? A straight swap? We need some cash, which RM has in abundance. I think they might take that, as it only costs them 10 mill to buy back Negredo and Granero, which makes it like a 30mill bid for Silva, which is quite reasonable. And RM is full of rich morons.
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i like granero

he’s one of those people who can fill aimar shoes in the center.Posted from
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yeah Granero is highly ranked in my books.. he’s great and dangerous! and he scores goals.. he’s just 21 but this guy has courage to shoot from outside the box, which by the way Baraja struggled to do.. and if you’re talking about Casillas’ goal, then it was obvious for the sake of the TV !
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Nithin, I watched Barcelona almost as much as I watched Valencia this season. They weren’t on their top form against you – they didnt need to be to win the league. They were a lot closer to top form yesterday. And Messi did well, though wasnt at his best. He also played up front unlike against you.
Your tactics were better than ours, certainly. But if Barcelona had gone all out against you, you’d have had twice as hard a match. In watching the game the fact that Barcelona never clicked into top gear at any point in the match was the biggest surprise to me. They did that when they beat you 4-0 though.
If you really think Spain’s first ever treble winning club side couldnt beat you, because Emery tactically outsmarted them and your players beat Barcelona by going out and outplaying them at their own game, despite Barcelona being at their best and playing at their highest level of intensity – Then I guess Emery is a genius and you should build a statue for him and pray to it before each match. Call your religion Emerism or something.Posted from
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