Champions League, Here We Come!!

By: Cesar | February 12th, 2008

tifo9.jpgI’m not one to issue declarations (or at least, not anymore) but the last few games have me thinking we might … *MIGHT* be back to a version of our winning ways.

I’ve said that before and been laughed at, no?

Well, this time I’m serious. I think we could go on a roll here and do some damage.
Maybe challenge for a Champions League spot?

Since our 3-1 drubbing of Real Betis at the Mestalla this weekend, coach Ronald Koeman and the boys seem more enthusiastic and more focused on the job at hand.

New defender Maduro said it for everyone to hear: There are lots of games left and it’s possible for us to get into a Champions League spot.

This is significant for two reasons:
1- Just a few weeks ago, we were 5 points from relegation. Think about that. Now we’re talking about getting into Europe again. A few games one way or the other is all it takes.

2- The players believe. For Maduro to come out and even mention the Champions League means it’s on their mind. And that’s a significant paradigm shift from a few weeks ago, when all looked lost.

So we’ve won two games in a row. Big deal, you say. Let’s not go crazy now, right?
But think about it. We’re in the semifinals of the Copa Del Rey. We’re in a small winning streak in Spain.

Can you imagine it? Winning the Cup and getting into Europe’s top competition? I’m salivating at the prospects …

Koeman sounded optimistic.

“To win two games in succession allows us to return to looking up the table and I think that we can get into the Champions League zone because we are going to continue improving,” said the Dutchman, whose side are currently in ninth spot, eight points behind fourth-placed Atletico Madrid.

“We are much happier, but things can change quickly and we cannot think that we have achieved anything yet. There are things we still need to improve on, although we have broken our poor run of results at home. We need to continue picking up points to get us to where we want to be.”

Hey, why not right?

Look, I know it’ll be hard. But it’s not impossible.

As stated before, we’re 9th. 33 points. 8 points from 4th-place Atletico.
The teams above us, like Madrid, Barca, Sevilla … they haven’t been that consistent. Neither have we, but that’s neither here nor there (just play along, ok?).

Here are our remaining games:

Getafe-Valencia
Valencia-Recreativo
Espanyol-Valencia
Valencia Deportivo
Valencia Sevilla
R. Madrid Valencia
Valencia Mallorca
Murcia Valencia
Valencia Racing
Athletic Valencia
Valencia Osasuna
Barcelona Valencia
Valencia Zaragoza
Levante Valencia
Valencia Atlético

Now, according to research done by a fellow forum poster on foroche.com (hey, I’d love to take credit for this theory, but I haven’t the time to even sit properly these days), 66 points is the average point total of the 4th-place team in Spain the last 12 years …

We currently stand at 33.
15 games left to play which leaves 45 points in play.
That means we need 33 points to reach the magical number of 66.
That leaves a margin of error of 12 points.
Meaning, we can drop 12 points.
That’s it.

So how does that work out?

11 victories and 4 losses = 33 points.
11 victories, 1 draw, 3 losses = 34 points
10 victories, 3 draws, 2 losses = 33 points
11 victories, 3 draws, 1 loss = 36 points
10 victories, 5 draws, 0 losses = 35 points

You get the idea … we have to win. A lot.
It’s not going to be easy, but it can happen.

Let’s look at that schedule again and what could happen …

Getafe-Valencia - Win (3)
Valencia-Recreativo - Win (3) 6 total
Espanyol-Valencia - Draw (1) 7 total
Valencia Deportivo - Win (3) 10
Valencia Sevilla - Loss (0) 10
R. Madrid Valencia - Draw (1) 11
Valencia Mallorca - Win (3) 14
Murcia Valencia - Win (3) 17
Valencia Racing - Draw (1) 18
Athletic Valencia - Win (3) 21
Valencia Osasuna - Win (3) 24
Barcelona Valencia - Loss (0) 24
Valencia Zaragoza - Win (3) 27
Levante Valencia - Win (3) 30
Valencia Atlético …

You see what I’m getting at .. an all-important last game against Atletico at the Mestalla for a spot in the Champions League …

Of course, this assumes that the clubs ahead of us play as they have been and drop points.
It will be hard. But it can be done …

Step by step. At the very least, a place in the UEFA Cup next season.

Hey, it would be a moral victory at this point … I don’t care!

We can do this! AMUNT!!!

P.S. For all that care, I’ll be at Nevada Smith’s this Sunday at 1pm to watch the Valencia-Getafe match. I know some people were coming into NYC to watch a game? Let’s meet up!!





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  • Corey |  February 12th, 2008 at 6:46 pm

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    Wish I could come down and watch the game with you Cesar, I havent been to Nevada’s in a few months, but its my mates 21st on Saturday so I will be in no mood to take the Metro North on Sunday. Maybe for the Real game we could watch it there though…

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  • elisa |  February 12th, 2008 at 9:30 pm

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    Cesar, nice to see you so positive. It can happen, yes! It is going to be an exciting, rough road ahead. Vamanos!

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  • Jason Lujan |  February 12th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

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    Why not we got some confidence and its not like all our players are rubbish. I mean were talking half of Espana’s national team are from Valencia and last time I checked Espana is ranked third in the world? Si se puedes! Viva Valencia! Viva Espana!

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  • Ali |  February 13th, 2008 at 12:01 am

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    We can do it! with our offfence doing so great we can do it! but still our defence is a bit shaky.. hope they can stick together and defend like real MEN!!

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  • Daniel |  February 13th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

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    Hey Cesar,
    I’ve been sick as hell man so I havent been to Nevada’s lately. Hope to be there Sunday though. AMUNT!

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  • Cesar |  February 13th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

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    Daniel, hope to see you there!
    Corey, hope you can make it down soon!
    We’re going to Europe by hook or by crook, I tell ya …

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  • Gevorg |  February 13th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

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    We really can do it. Once Shakespeare was asked “You are a great poet, I’ve dreamed to become a “Shakespeare” all my life. So why I am not a famous writter?”
    Shakespeare answered “It’s interesting. I’ve dreamed to become a God, but I became just “Shakespeare”.”
    So we must aim to be best of all, to become Champions, and even if we don’t manage, we will sure play in Champions Legue.
    Amunt Valencia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Javier De Roque |  February 14th, 2008 at 8:42 am

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    Amen ! lets do it in spite of the moron at the helm. I beleive in our players, we havea great squad and i want them all to stay !

    We can win anything we want with these boys. Spain will go on to prove valencia’s men are champions this summer and Valencia will prove that we can survive piss poor management!

    i mean look at these names. Hildebrand, Joaquin, Vicente, Silva, Villa, Morientes, Banega, Miguel. These guys are all soccer legends in their own right. They have all proven that theya re among the best in the world. Lets all get behind them and let them know they can win anything when they play together.

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  • Timothy Lakefront |  February 14th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

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    Whatup guys. I’m definitely coming to NYC this weekend and will be at Nevada Smith’s for the game–looking forward to meeting fellow valencianistas cesar and co. I’ll be in Valencia gear, and given the fact that there will probably be only 4 of us or so watching the game, it shouldn’t be too tough to find you guys. By the way, my real name is Ryan–I gave fake info because I thought they would fill up my mailbox. See you on Sunday. AMUNT.

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  • Javier De Roque |  February 15th, 2008 at 8:33 am

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    Ill be at the Val - Bar copa del rey match march 20 in valencia .. anybody else going and wanna join ?

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  • elisa |  February 16th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

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    Cesar - Angulo was interviewed and said that two players have sold out to the club and management. Who do you think he is talking about?

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  • javier |  February 16th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

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    Koeman says he wants van der vaart at valencia… pipe dream?

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  • elisa |  February 16th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

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    Javier you are so lucky! Enjoy yourself! Amunt!

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  • Cesar |  February 16th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

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    Hey all, wish I had more time to write but busy with work, interviews, etc … Luckily I’ll watch the game tomorrow. Can’t be at the Mestalla as I wish, but a soccer pub is good enough for now!

    As for what Angulo said, I think we need to see who benefited from Koeman’s moves. I think that means Baraja, who is as old as the others but was kept on the team and Marchena, who is a co-captain as well.

    They’re the ones I believe sold out … does the soap opera at Valencia ever end?

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  • bob |  February 17th, 2008 at 1:56 am

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    ive been suprised that marchena and baraja in particular havent said anything at all about the treatment of their sacked teamates so perhaps there is some truth in that.
    also saw koeman wearing a fallas outfit after admiting he has never heard of fallas and has no interest in it, strange

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  • Ali |  February 17th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

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    we played like shitt! and our defence is too messed up! there is somethiing missin in valencia i dnt know what.

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  • elisa |  February 17th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

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    Awful game - like watching paint dry. Marchena I always suspected, (he’s in bed with Aragones too) but Baraja? Wow that really sucks. Baraja is so not worthy and far inferior to the three ex captains. Baraja needs to be sent out to pasture at a lesser team.

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  • elisa |  February 17th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

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    Cesar are you in Valencia?

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  • Javier De Roque |  February 18th, 2008 at 1:39 am

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    Valencia played plain bad. And Villa man grab some bloody dicipline. What a stupid red card.. and its not his first.

    Joaquin played great and silva had some moments. I would have liked to see Mata on for Maduro instead of comming on for Silva who did have some chances.

    Our back four played plain bad. marchena being hte only guy that would go for the ball and stop it. Moretti kept falling on the ground and was fooled over and over.

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  • Veles |  February 18th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

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    Pozdrav do makedoncite koj navivaat za valencia ne ima mnogu :D

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